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Deranged Fans: Carolina Loses It

March 18, 2012

Deranged Fans

Public enemy No. 1 in Chapel Hill.

Time to expose more deranged fans – this time from North Carolina.

Some with access to the Interwebs are very cross with Creighton’s Ethan Wragge for fouling Kendall Marshall on the play that broke his wrist.

So, they are doing the only natural thing – attacking Wragge on Twitter:

And an apology from one of the earlier Tweeters:

Meanwhile, Kelly seems nice:

And they keep coming (11:40 p.m. update):

Some even say the above comments are OK:

And a night’s sleep hasn’t stopped some from going after him (Monday AM update):

Twenty four hours later, they’re still at it (Monday 8 p.m. update):

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159 Comments on “Deranged Fans: Carolina Loses It”

  1. Luc Velazquez Says:

    this is why people

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    • Harley Says:

      This is why we are complaining……..

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      • crhowit Says:

        Um, wait, so then why are you threatening the Wrage kid? He wasn’t even in that clip. Now you guys look really dumb.

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      • Brian Says:

        Hey *insert UNC fan name*, where did you go to school?

        “replies either didn’t go to school or not UNC”

        ………

        Oh, Walmart sale. Gotcha.

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        • oneiron Says:

          Hey Brian, just go bag my groceries and shut the hell up! Heard you bought your wuffpecker shirt at Goodwill. Nice try though loser!!

      • UNCstinks Says:

        Oh you mean the tyler zeller flop in that video??? like he always does every time anyone touches him?

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      • Kevin McMahon Jr.™ (@thegreatgib) Says:

        heres how we end all the arguing
        ME: tar hole did you have to play a ranked team to get to the elite eight
        Tar hole: well no but we shouldn’t have to we are the number one seed
        ME: no tar hole you are a number one seed not the number one seed the number one seed actually has had to play a ranked team to get the elite eight
        Tar hole: so
        me: all I’m saying is if you guys are as good as you say why have all you tourney games been so close and yes at the begining of the vermont game it was close and ok it was never really close in the game vs the blue jays but how about Ohio
        Tar hole: A WIN’S A WIN *BLANK STARE*
        me: uh huh ok well see how that works out for ya vs the jay hawks
        Tar hole: but marshals wrist-
        Me: its to go to the final four he’ll play its a bunch a bs
        Tarhole: oh

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    • E.Wragge Says:

      I hope that little punk bitch is out for good!

      This is not Ethan Wragge, but anyone could pose to be on the internet. How do you know these aren’t Duke fans trying to make Carolina look bad???? You don’t….

      The fact that this Tony guy want to post this shows he is very naive, or he is just an asshole himself just trying to stir the pot.

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      • Tony Says:

        Yes, that is the most likely scenario. Dozens of sleeper Duke fans set up Twitter accounts months or years ago, Tweeted about North Carolina basketball over weeks and months and years, and then – at just the right time – spontaneously decided to attack a Creighton player in a remarkably coordinated effort to make some North Carolina fans look bad.

        I am, indeed, terribly naive for believing otherwise.

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        • Carolina rules!!! ...pssst (I'm secrectly a Duke fan having fun trying to get people pissed off at Carolina..) Says:

          You stalked every post for the last couple of years from EVERY one of these “fans”,,,, Wow… Looks like we should be worrying about you instead…

        • anThONY Says:

          I realize Carolina has one of the biggest fan bases in the Nation, but I don’t like to pick out the positives because I know nobody cares about positive press. Oh… I’m also the type of guy that thinks all black people will rob you because a few of them have committed crimes before…

        • Tony Says:

          anthony/carolina/rules/neutral/e.wragge/Matt –

          You have now posted comments under at least six names. Please stop with the sock puppetry.

      • anthony/carolina/rules/neutral/e.wragge/Matt AKA the PUPPETEER Says:

        Tony,

        It’s appears your are becoming agitated, and I thought if you could dish it out you could also take it. My apologies…I guess it just appears your story is slanted to make it appear “Carolina loses it” as a whole instead of “A miniscule sample of Carolina’s fans have lost it”. I realize it takes a good writer to come up with a positive story and negative press is extremely easy to get a few readers. This world needs more negative press anyway right? I know you must already bitter since your journalism career has sucommed to writing blogs…. I’m sure everyone is very excited to read about your next out of conference hate rant. To bad there’s nothing positive to write about in the NCAA tournamen…

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        • Tony Says:

          My very brief intro to the post says: “Some with access to the Interwebs.” The headline is what it is. Not meant to suggest an entire fan base.

        • anthony/carolina/rules/neutral/e.wragge/Matt AKA the PUPPETEER Says:

          So the title in bold doesn’t say Deranged Fans: Carolina Loses It? To me that sounds pretty generalized….The way you made it sound is some of the tyrant fans even spoke out about it through threats on Twitter. I don’t think anyone is taking it as just a few.

        • Tony Says:

          We could put everything in the headline, but that would be cumbersome. It says “some” in the body of the story.

          It is not meant to be an examination of the many different ways fans reacted to an injury/win/whatever. It is meant to expose bad fan behavior directed directly at a college student. Just as the previous posts with the “Deranged Fans” tag have.

        • anthony/carolina/rules/neutral/e.wragge/Matt AKA the PUPPETEER Says:

          riiggghhhtttt….

        • Rob Says:

          So your headline of “Deranged Fans: Carolina Loses it”, is not meant to suggest an entire fan base? If this were the case, you would have included your “some” in the headline instead of trying to get extra attention from your generalized statement.

          You are playing the exact same game as most media is these days; making a sensationalist headline to attract more readers, even if it misrepresents the actual content of the article.

          Perhaps you should consider working for a publication such as the National Enquirer, or one of the other tabloids. It certainly seems like you have the headline writing skills they would want.

  2. Luc Velazquez Says:

    this is why people hate unc fans. they cross the line to damn quickly

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  3. Julia & Bill Says:

    UNC is the biggest Walmart Trash Fan School in America. Live it up you insufferable morons!

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  4. jrtj67 Says:

    Isn’t this The Daily BIG 10??? What in God’s name is North Carolina on here for? Who cares? Shouldn’t this site be celebrating the Big 10’s performances (most of them) in the tournament? Or even mention the national wrestling championships held over the weekend where 5 Big 10 teams finished in the top 10? Including the national champion?

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  5. J Says:

    If Wragge broke Anthony Davis’ wrist on the same play, I’m sure Wildcat fans would be rushing to Wragge’s defense.

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  6. K Says:

    Don’t generalize. There are some UNC fans — most of whom probably did not attend UNC — who are handling this very poorly. Most are not. And the fact of the matter is that every school has fans that would react this way. It doesn’t make it right, but it does mean that people shouldn’t make statements about UNC, the basketball program, or most of the fans based on things said and done by a minority.

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    • Tony Says:

      Agree with that, which is why it says “some with access to the Internet.”

      Click on the “Deranged Fans” tag above the post to see earlier posts in this series – including those from Indiana, Ohio State and Michigan State.

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      • Arthur Says:

        You could have just said, “Read more of my stories that say the same thing. I’m defending a broad generalization by broadening it, and making it more general.”

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  7. kh12345 Says:

    UNC is a top 30 University academically…I highly doubt any of these tweets came from actual students of the school. To say that UNC fans are morons is ignorant, and ironically moronic.

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  8. smyd Says:

    Oh man, this is too golden. How do your vaginas feel after that win UNC?????????? Hahahhaha…..oh that’s right, we are supposed to stop trying to steal and block shots when your players have boo boo’s…maybe we’ll think about that next time….NAAAA JUST KIDDING, we don’t really care.

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  9. Daniel Conner Says:

    UNC Alumni aren’t the problem, it’s their fans. Four years at a major university like that will usually mature a person while they get a first class education so it’s not hard to believe that these tweets are coming from non-UNC alumni. Not hard at all really, their non-alumni fans suck. They complain that they don’t get ref calls EVERYTIME Duke beats them as if they’re some sort of ACC Pariah. As a UNC hater, I still defend and have friends who are alumni and I hate that the kid broke his wrist but as a kid who broke his wrist on his non-shooting hand in 5th grade, I still played and hopefully he can too.

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    • C. Jones Says:

      Well stated.
      As an alum, I’m obviously disappointed that some have taken directly to this guy’s Twitter feed, but hardly surprised. Every major school always has lunatic fringe fans that reflect poorly the fan base at large. The reality is you have, what, fifteen different people tweeting drivel? That’s fifteen out of tens, if not hundreds of thousands of North Carolina fans. I’m not saying it’s OK, but lumping these clowns in with the rest of the fans is ludicrous.

      My $.02

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      • T. Anderson Says:

        Believe me, there are a whole lot more than 15 people tweeting this sort of stuff. There were many, many more, including death threats, that were not included in the blog. By the way, they continue to come in this morning. I’ve never seen anything quite like it before…

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    • Brian Says:

      Thanks to both of you for reasonable responses. I’m a Duke alum living in Raleigh, and for many here, they feel empowered to be down right nasty to me or my kids when wearing Duke gear. I don’t generalize that these folks are indicative of the majority of the fan base, particularly the alumni of UNC. I love the rivalry, yet abhor the lack of perspective of many, to be fair, in both shades of blue.

      That said, I’ll cheer against UNC, but never at the expense of a kid’s health. Hope @kbutter5 heals quickly. By all accounts he seems to be a solid kid.

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    • Steve Says:

      Daniel Connor – there’s a huge difference between you “breaking your non-shooting hand in 5th grade” and Kendall Marshall breaking his hand during the tournament numb nuts…were you playing for a spot in the Elite 8, the Final 4 or even the NCAA Championship? I’d say nooooooo….and for the record, I AM a graduate of UNC – class of ’91 and I could care less about what you or any of the other dip sh1ts on here think as you so ignorantly bash the ‘Heels…we have great fans who are full of pride and love the game. True – there may be some idiots but all in all, every team has them. The majority of the people on here bashing UNC have no clue or idea about the history and tradition that make this school, along with UK, Indiana, and a few others the class of college hoops as well as some of the main reasons it’s progressed the way it has over the years. I say this as someone who loves the game and watches any game that is on – yes, even Duke, it’s a game, it was a hard foul but it was a legal foul – let it go. The best way to show all of these haters that we have class is to prove them wrong and rise above it all…if that happens then what will the have to say? Baby blue is gay, you’re over rated, you get all the calls, etc…I’ve heard them all before, it’s nothing new. People love to hate you when you’re at the top and as far as college basketball goes, Carolina has been at the top of the mountain for a very long time and that won’t be changing anytime soon.

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  10. CRYBABY FANS!!! Says:

    Way to show how much class you Carolina fans have. John Henson is just an extension of you fans. HE is the punk. He can’t cry every time he gets tapped for a little foul. If his wrist hurts that bad, then go back to cheer leading on the bench.

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  11. DClark Says:

    It’s a basketball game. Relax. The guy even played the rest of the game. If it was intentional he would have made sure he was out. No one feels worse now than Ethan Wragge. But thanks for posting all the tweets.

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  12. DClark Says:

    I hope Wragge turns the death threat tweets over to the police. Terroristic threats are punishable by law

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    • dstreck Says:

      DClark, you are absolutely right. He should turn them over to the police. And I hope he does, and I hope the police find these people (with Twitter, it shouldn’t be too hard to ID them), and charge them with making terroristic threats. And I hope the story goes all over the country, then maybe crap like this will stop. People won’t think they can say whatever they want without consequences then.

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  13. Did you even watch the game? Says:

    Creighton should be invited to the Big10 … they play the same goon style of basketball. BTW – to all the haters … the Heels still won the game

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    • Tony Says:

      So you’re cool with the Tweets above?

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      • Did you even watch the game? Says:

        Seriously? Every program has their lunatic fools, for and against. And since you’ve been on this thread since it started, I assume you are a member of the ‘ABC’ lunitics.

        My comment is in regard to the approach used in this contest. I see it used often by lesser teams to ‘slow down’ more athletic teams. Basically trying to make a player consider their health/safety due to the almost-out-of-control recklessness of the opponent. I’m all for giving your best, but at what cost? McDermott’s team will be remembered for this.

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        • Tony Says:

          I am completely indifferent to North Carolina. I wrote the post about the lunatic fools.

        • Did you even watch the game? Says:

          Tony Says:
          March 19, 2012 at 2:47 pm
          I am completely indifferent to North Carolina. I wrote the post about the lunatic fools.

          7 of the 36 comments are from you – indifferent … sure!

        • C'mon Man! Says:

          Do you not realize that he wrote this article? He’s simply monitoring what people are saying about his piece and commenting accordingly. Simmer down kid

        • Tony Says:

          If you can’t tell the difference between lunatic fools and North Carolina … well, I don’t know what to tell you.

          Click on “Deranged Fans” at the top of the post – and maybe then you can see I’m not picking on Carolina as a whole. Or just read.

          Either way.

        • Kelly (TarHeelElphie) Says:

          I can say something being one of the lunatic fools. TarHeelElphie here.
          First thing? Did I got to Carolina? No, I actually went to Iowa State, but I was raised a Carolina fan my whole life (my ancestors actually donated quite a bit of land that the school was built on. I got into UNC but my mother made the decison that instate tuition and 2 partial scholarships were better than out of state tuition and no scholarships. You probably would have made the decision too. Anyway. . .
          Did I say some things out of line? Yeah, I did. I get heated when it comes to my team, because I will bleed Carolina Blue til the day I die. I know that when it comes to my team, I am not at all objective. Its not a great trait, but, hey, its me. Im of the mind where my team is the best, and everyone elses team sucks. I wont apologize for it.
          I did notice that, Tony, that, at least with me, you left out some of the comments I had made previously about us sticking together for our team. That we have a team full of good players, not just Kendall. I mean hell we arent the damn the Colts, look what happened to them when Manning got hurt? I had actually calmed down until a Creighton fan got me riled up again. I also know quite a bit of fans who went there, or are still there, who didnt act like this. So I dont think its fair to call us all classless. I, for the most part, am not classes, I was just heated and said some uncool things. I also dont like to think of myself as deranged, just passionate and unobjective. But McDermott called Coach to apologize. Do I think Creighton played rough? Yes, I do. They did, In retrospect where they trying to cause injury? Well it certainly seemed like it with that foul and wink on Henson. (and btw a good friend of mine whose a Creighton fan agreed with me on that point at least) Im not a big fan of malicious fouls, and I think it was disgusting game. But I also know that when your in the heat of the moment playing in a game, things can be harder than you intended. But under no circumstances should you judge EVERY Tar Heel by what a few of us said in the heat of the moment.
          Go Heels.
          Kelly

  14. Sickened by UNC Says:

    Funny thing about the masses of Carolina fans, were not they the ones that bought extra tickets to go to the Duke game in Greensboro just to spew venom at Duke and there fans so that they could not enjoy the game or was I imaging that? The masses may not tweet the stuff, but the masses are fanatics that spew hate for everything not UNC.

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    • BlueBleeder Says:

      UNC played on the same court before Duke in Greensboro – they were just watching the rest of the day’s games, since tickets are for all four. Yes, many cheered for the underdog against their team’s rival. To a lot of fans, Tobacco Road rivalries are zero sum – just ask the ABC-ers (Anybody But Carolina) who regularly hate on UNC and cheers against them regardless of opponent. They’re quite common in NC. For the record, Carolina fans were very supportive for N.C. State, despite the fact that state fans seem to hate UNC and its fans more than even the Dookies. All that said, everybody knows the rivalries and the conference are better when the others do well in the tournament – sometimes people just succumb to instant gratification. I will say that as both a lifer and an alum, the reaction among UNC fans to Duke’s loss on Facebook has opened my eyes a bit as to why there are so many ABC-ers out there.

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      • Sickened by UNC Says:

        you sir are a class act. It was my understanding the tickets were sold in two game packs, and that then they would have had to purchased seperate tickets. I was told they made everyone exit after UNC game and re-enter, but I can see where that could have been fictious information. I undestand, not all Fans are fanatics and there are good fans in every fan base. Just living in Durham you really meet more of the haters then the true fans.

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  15. Brooke Says:

    Carolina of course has no problem when refs call it in their favor. That’s what Marshall gets for fouling an NC State player during the ACC tournament and not being called. Karma’s a bitch dear.

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    • leborules Says:

      That’s classy. The refs chose not to blow the whistle on a 50/50 call and you think he deserved to have his wrist broke. How are you different than the people tweeting to the creighton player?

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  16. Love UNC1 Says:

    It is called a “Rivalry” Sickened by UNC, you genius. Dook fans would have been doing the same thing, if the tables were turned. There is nothing wrong with supporting your team. I guess Dook fans are still hurting from getting beat by a 15 seed.

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    • Sickened by UNC Says:

      Really we had the same oppurtunity this weekend in Greensboro as you did to behave badly, but this was not the case. So not sure I follow your rational that we would have done the same thing, but hey I’m no genius.

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      • BlueBleeder Says:

        no you didn’t, you were getting your ass beat

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      • BlueBleeder Says:

        no you didn’t, we never trailed and you were getting your ass beat. be honest.

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        • Sickened by UNC Says:

          I take back my remark about you being a class act. Didn’t you bastards play first? Couldn’t we have bought all the tickets and made it an away game for you. Couldn’t we yell hate at you when we saw you walk into the Arena. I can’t help that your fan base acts like 12 year olds, I did not go to the games in Greensboro my brother-in-law did, but I have been to several ACC tournys and your fan base behaves like a mob when they are together. But keep telling yourself we would act that way.

        • Elizabeth Says:

          @Sickened by UNC you are INSANE if you think it was wrong for us to cheer against Duke. It is a sport. It would be no fun if you wanted everyone to win all the time! I love Carolina. I hate Duke. I wanted to see Lehigh win. How is that wrong? Not to mention, Lehigh was the underdog for goodness sakes. The whole nation (outside of Duke fans) was rooting for Lehigh. What just because you are Duke no one can root against you? Had the Carolina vs. Vermont game been even a remotely a good game people across the country and Duke fans would have been going nuts for Vermont, and that’s fine with me! Everyone wants to see the top programs go down to the underdog. If you don’t understand that then you obviously don’t understand much about college basketball or sports in general.

      • leborules Says:

        I have sat next to dook fans in the acc tournament and the ncaa tournament when carolina plays. They always cheer loudly against UNC. I have no problem with that…it’s a rivalry. I always cheer against dook in anything, and most dook and state fans I know cheer against UNC always.

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        • Kelly (TarHeelElphie) Says:

          I agree when dook played Kansas State in Kansas City (where I lived at the time) I went in a Carolina shirt, with my friend (whose a KState alum) and cheered for KState, cuz I cheer for anyone playing dook. Cuz they are evil. Period.

  17. Love UNC1 Says:

    Hey Brooke, why don’t you go put your tin foil hat back on, Hide from the black helicopters and jump on your tractor and go home. I am shocked that a wolfpecker would be brave enough to post something. You have the most delusional, conspiracy theory fan base in the world. I am sure Debbie Yow has already written a rough draft complaining to the NCAA when you get smacked by Kansas. I should expect that kind of typical Crack Pack remark. Real classy comparing a no call foul, to Marshall getting hurt. Go crawl back to your trailer park.

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    • Sickened by UNC Says:

      You are just full of HATE aren’t you. Really wasn’t that bad of a foul, kid fell very awkward. I truely hate it for Marshal and his family, and I hate it for his teammates that came back for this run. Just not sure death threats and bashing are neccesary.

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      • grandslam Says:

        Went to a duke ecu football game once at duke. There was more ecu fans than duke fans at your home. We just about had to fight our way out of that hole to hell. The fans stood there trying to start violence with all ecu fans. When i got to the car the duke radio station was talking about how bad the ecu fans act. I have never seen a worst base of fans than your school. You think your wrong actions are never wrong.

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  18. BlueBleeder Says:

    One note that nobody’s touched on – UNC fans are pissed because Marshall’s injury was the culmination of a physical game plan that went unmanaged by the officials. UNC is used to getting banged and held by teams that lack the athleticism to play them straight up (which is most). Its often frustrating, but it’s a legitimate game plan. The swipes at Henson’s injury after the whistle seemed a little overboard, the wink was an acknowledgment of intent, and the refs willingness to let the physicality escalate resulted in a few genuine cheap shots later on (see the later hack on his wrist, and the decking of Zeller). The foul on Marshall wasn’t terribly egregious, but the guy wasn’t making a play on the ball either. He just extended a forearm into a body that already had him decisively beat. If the refs had managed that style of play as it started to escalate, maybe the guy doesn’t just push our point guard out of the air to save one point in a hopelessly losing effort. For Creighton it was a pointless play, for UNC it obviously effects the season moving forward, and the whole college basketball world misses the chance of seeing UNC-Kentucky firing on all cylinders for the title. It f*n sucks. I blame the refs – their only attempt at game management was the T on Henson, which served to embolden Creighton’s unchecked use of the strategy. Poorly called.

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    • Jays Fan Says:

      I am a Creighton fan and have seen every game they played this year. What Carolina fans don’t understand is that if you had watched Wragge before you would know, he didn’t do anything intentional here. Wragge is just not as fast as all of the Tarheels fans want to think and that is what caused the problem. If you had watched Wragge at all this year you would know that. Watch the replay again and you will see what happened actually is that Wragge arrived late to the play and tried to get the ball. Unfortunately his late jump in pursuit of the basketball caused some type of weird juxtaposition by the Carolina player, who then fell awkwardly and landed badly. No one, especially Ethan Wragge, would want for this young man to be hurt. The whole situation is very unfortunate.

      What is even more unfortunate however is that adults are on this website and others wishing for these 2 very talented young to be inflicted with even more pain and hurt, all in the name of basketball. This is what is very very sad indeed.

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      • bluebleeder Says:

        I agree there was no ill-intent on Wragge’s part – but he did extend his right arm, you just can’t see directly from the cross court angle most often posted online. It was a hard foul on a drive to the basket that arose because he was out of position to make a play on the ball. If it was all body, it would be a non-issue, or if Marshall doesn’t break his wrist, also a non-issue. But the fact remains that he did extend his arm for no other purpose than throwing Marshall off balance and pushing him away from the basket. My point was that if the refs had curtailed some of the chippy fouls earlier, the likelihood of the arm extending diminishes. Its all fun and games till someone gets hurt, and the refs job is to keep it fun and games – i.e. game management, and I think they failed in that regard. I do regret that some fans have attacked Wragge personally – a futile and classless act towards a player who otherwise seemed to play a clean game.

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  19. Sickened by UNC Says:

    I will be departing this conversation and marking it down a a fuetile attempt at talking with the irrational. I grew up in the heart of this rivalry in Durham, NC and understand the entire situation in away that most can not even begin to understand. Go somewhere after a Duke victory in this series and you will see shirts and flags and maybe catch a little ribbing. Now go to the same place after any Duke loss to any one, and there will be an a@@hole wearing light blue talking @hit. The simple truth of the matter is that 90% of all Tarheels I run into on a daily bases are good people that turn to complete Jerks at the sight of Duke Blue. There are very few that you can actually talk to objectively about either program. To those individuals my hat goes off to you for being a true fan of not only your team, but of the games in which they play. To the rest keep believing that you are running a clean program, and winning the right way. And know when your players disgrace the program with their behavior that they are just an extension of there fan base

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    • go dook! Says:

      Lehigh

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    • bluebleeder Says:

      i think your skin is too thin to properly enjoy a rivalry. Everywhere I go after UNC loses, if I’m wearing light blue I hear it from everybody – Duke, State, Wake, UNCC, etc (and I’m not one to dish until it gets dealt), so don’t feed me that line of BS. You’re on a thread dedicated to The Big 10 with a username that overtly hates on your ACC rival. If you’re going to be a hypocritical, condescending jerk… I guess you’ve found the right color blue. Take your ball and go home. Enjoy the tournament now that you won’t have to worry about being sickened after any more losses.

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      • bluebleeder Says:

        P.S. thanks to the Daily Big 10 for indulging some ACC beef

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        • Tony Says:

          not a problem. i believe we are positively genteel around here, after reading all of this.

      • Sickened by UNC Says:

        My skin isn’t to thin Iive in the heart of the rivalry and I have been living with your arogant Arses my entire life. Perhaps the reason everyone talks @hit to you is because you are a Jerk to everyone, just a guess. You are correct I have chosen the proper Blue, the one with class and integrity. You are correct I chose then name correctly because that is how the article above made me feel at the moment. That is a geniune emotional decision based on your fans bases decision to act like retards.
        On a side note this is probably our worst team since 1995, and we were still ranked in the top 10 all year, and made the tourney. Sure we lost a game we shouldn’t have but hell we won one we also shouldn’t have. Just so you never forget that a terrible Duke team beat your mighty Tarheels they will be showing Rivers short for the rest or your pethetic life, ask Kentucky how that @hit taste. I imagine it will be sickening. Never forget that Karma is a bitch.

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        • Sickened by UNC Says:

          *shot

        • bluebleeder Says:

          “That is a geniune emotional decision based on your fans bases decision to act like retards.”

          spoken like someone who is truly rational and objectively removed from the tendencies of all fans everywhere, and also fairly drunk. Just drop the pretense dude. As a general rule, we can only communicate as adults if we are accepting of one others shortcomings and cognizant of our own. Talking smack is just part of the fun. Accept and embrace it, don’t look down your nose as you respond in kind. Cheers dude, lighten up.

        • go dook! Says:

          Lehigh! Hahahahaaaaahaaaa.

        • leborules Says:

          No offense but this dook team is only called horrible after they got knocked out of the tournament. How many Mickey D’s are on that team? Rivers, 2 Plumlees, Kelly, and Cook. 5 of them. How many schools have 5, UK, UNC, dook, who else? Can’t say it was a horrible team and can’t say they didn’t have talent. Now, can you say they weren’t coached well? Hard to imagine with the greatest coach of all time, but something stopped them from performing.

        • Matt Says:

          Sickened by UNC, your title says it all. You have a very biased view of the way you see things, and I’m sure you do run into ignorant UNC fans. When you have a large fan base you are bound to have a few. However, if you believe your fans do not do the same if not worse, then please google most hated teams in history. Almost every website has Duke at the very top… And it’s not just Carolina fans voting against them. In a recent poll out of 388 division 1 basketball teams Duke was the most hated at 54%….54%! http://guyism.com/sports/most-hated-sports-teams.html

  20. Sickened by UNC Says:

    Tony, sorry didn’t really come here for that. Great article, glad you got a taste of what Duke vs. Carolina can be. Very unique situation with fan bases living and working in the same communities and the two actual colleges being 7 miles apart. Funny thing is that the players are friends with each other off the court soit really is just a fan hatred for each other. Thanks again and sorry for being a pest.

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  21. mykidzmomnow Says:

    Reblogged this on South of the Fork and commented:
    This is just all so funny to me. (Says she with lots of UNC-CH fans as friends yet she could not possibly care less…)

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  22. Let Says:

    Grow up everyone, if this were your team, you would do the same. This harping on each other is unnecessary if you don’t like whats being said, then ignore it. Carolina fans have every right to be mad.

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    • Tony Says:

      Do you believe they have every right to say what they did to the player?

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      • leborules Says:

        I don’t think people have the right to say those kinds of things. However, for anyone to say that the refs had control of this game would be false. They were coached to foul hard, to attack Henson’s wrist and to make their “presence” felt. Well they did that didn’t they? Watch the clip of the foul on Marshall and tell me where the play on the ball was. If you don’t go for the ball, that’s an intentional foul, yet you can find 4 to 5 plays in that game where no actual attempt to get the ball was made and the refs let it go. I don’t blame Wragge or whatever his name is, I blame the refs for not having control of the game.

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  23. devilwalking Says:

    As a Duke alum, lifelong fan and Durham resident, very little in the world twists my stomach in painful knots like the thought of UNC winning a national championship and jumping over their mini-bonfires in the middle of Franklin Street. I grin every time someone mentions Matt Doherty, check Pacers’ box scores to make sure Hansbrough still isn’t starting and grimace at the thought of so many of Kyrie’s dimes turning into Antawn layups. Outside of Duke winning, there is nothing in sports more important to me than Carolina losing.

    But when I saw that Kendall had broken his wrist, the first words out of my mouth were, “Oh God, that’s awful.” It effectively ends UNC’s chances of taking it all this year, but it isn’t worth rejoicing because absolutely no team or player deserves a fate like that in the heat of March basketball.

    Duke was head and shoulders above the rest of the nation with a healthy Kyrie at the point last year, and in my opinion, a full-strength UNC running their brand of basketball is the best 2012 has to offer. It sucks when the floor general goes down. There is no more important position in basketball and no loss harder to recover from. Not to mention, Marshall has had one of the great seasons in collegiate point guard history. It doesn’t even matter that he’s a slow guy running a really fast fast break; we haven’t seen that kind of court vision in a really, really long time.

    It’s easy to assume (or perhaps hope) that the people saying such heinous things to Wragge on Twitter are not Carolina students or alums. Some of them probably aren’t, but plenty of my UNC-alum acquaintances posted similarly vulgar or, in my opinion, blind remarks on Facebook. It’s not worth debating whether these people are or are not part of the UNC family – since we cannot know for sure – but can’t we agree that there is still no room for that stuff in the fan base? I think some of it might be mitigated from the top down. As it is, Roy breeds a culture that takes it all a bit too seriously. Not that he shouldn’t care 100% about winning… that’s his job. But here’s a guy who kicks loud fans of non-competitive teams out of the Dean Dome, heads to the locker room early with his stars but not his reserves and compares a difficult basketball season with the natural disaster and humanitarian crisis in Haiti.

    It’s a pervasive mentality for a Carolina fan base that, while incredibly knowledgeable and passionate about basketball, has taken the nation’s obsession with criticizing spoiled Duke students and Coach K’s sailor mouth as a free pass to feel righteous anger toward spirited competition and to perceive persecution around every corner. Anyone who thinks that Creighton team was playing dirty is just blind. Should you try and impose a physical game on a team that likes to fast break? Absolutely. But making the semantic jump from physical to dirty is exactly what starts the emotional momentum that concludes in names like “thug,” “faggot,” “cunt” and worse, physical threats.

    Here’s what I thought when I saw a couple of strong fouls from both the Blue Jays and Tar Heels yesterday. “Man, I wish Andre Dawkins and Seth Curry had the stones to do this against Lehigh.” Clark Kellogg – who I am loathe to admit agreeing with on anything – even mentioned at some point during the game that if you’re going to make a challenge on someone with a head of steam who is heading for a lay-up, you’d better make it a man’s foul and keep him from getting a shot off. In the one-and-done NCAA Tournament, it’s not worth the risk of a one-or-two point loss that comes from a silly swipe at the ball and a 3-point play. It’s not just about Marshall, though. The reason more players don’t swipe wildly to steal the ball from point guards is that they’re likely to get blown by if they miss. Post players are taught not to dribble much and to keep the ball high because they are more likely to have it stolen in the congested paint. I cringed along with Henson as he took a couple of slaps to the wrist because it genuinely looked painful. If it was a serious risk to his health to take those slaps, then I hope the team, just as they went ahead with Marshall’s surgery this morning, would have put Henson’s health first and kept him on the bench. As it was, both John and the coaching staff decided he could play through the pain, and the fact that open-handed slap fouls caused Henson’s already injured wrist pain no more makes Creighton dirty than it makes me Peyton Manning.

    When I was a Duke student, we were beating St. Johns handily at Cameron Indoor when my roommate started a chant that went, “Fire Mike Jarvis! Clap clap clap-clap-clap.” There was no reason to take it seriously, as the Johnnies were never expected to challenge a strong Duke team on its home court. But before long, Coach K yelled to the crowd that it was a bad cheer and should stop immediately. No one quite knew what to think. Some students bemoaned the increasing restrictions/interference on their cheering, as he had also intervened recently to stop chants with blatant profanity and some of the most current and creative, if personal, jeers on individual opponents. Anytime an opposing player is injured at Cameron, you can hear a pin drop, and not just because the place is small. When he’s up and hobbling off, or recovered and back in the game, he gets a hearty cheer from students and paying fans alike.

    I imagine that’s what happens at the Dean Dome as well. Yet when I was at the ACC Tournament Final in Greensboro later that year, and Chris Duhon took a fall that injured his ribs and drastically cut our chances of beating Maryland, it wasn’t the Terps fans that were noisy and laughing while he was down. It was the Carolina contingent that stuck around to root against us. I actually respect that sort of dedication. Root against Duke under all circumstances. But don’t root for injury; that’s malicious, and it’s personal. Seeing as you don’t know Chris, and he doesn’t know you, what possible legitimate reason could you have to wish for or enjoy such physical harm? I guess he was the senior point guard for a Duke team with national title aspirations. I guess there was that.

    The reality is that Kendall Marshall took a strong aerial foul and fell to the ground – something that happens dozens of times a game – and in reaching out to stop his fall to the floor, he broke his wrist. It is an absolute shame because the national championship should be determined by the best teams playing each other in full health. I wish we’d had Ryan Kelly out there. I wish you had Strickland and McDonald available, too.

    But, UNC alums or not, the entire discourse and community of college basketball lovers is done a disservice by people who feel involved to such a degree that they make such outbursts. The phrase “classless little prick” is a remarkably classless thing to call someone. There’s a bit of irony in someone crying out about “cheap shots” just before he calls someone he’s never met a “cunt.” It’s trashy to call someone “trash.” Here’s hoping Kendall gets better soon and so-called #TarHeelsNation gains a little perspective.

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    • Tony Says:

      Good comment there. Thanks for sharing and stopping by.

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    • Gene Says:

      There should be no room in college basketball for the kind of inane vulgarity found on blogs today. These aren’t fans, but rather groupies. Fans at least understand the game, and appreciate good play regardless of the uniform. I’m a Tar Heel, and yet I really admire what K has accomplished. I don’t like Dook, but I respect them enough to want to beat them every chance we get. And I don’t like it so much when other teams beat them, that’s our role in life!
      I also do not think there is any role in trying to put another player out of action. Henson obviously felt Gibbs was intentionally going for his wrist, and why did Gibbs wink at his bench afterwards?
      Hard fouls when a person is airborne can really injure someone. Sportsmen try to catch the player in the air, so that he isn’t injured. Wragge gave his forearm shove, and turned his back, never trying to help Marshall. He seemed totally unconcerned, but at least he did not high five the bench.

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      • devilwalking Says:

        I understand the frustration there, and of course we cannot know for certain what the Gibbs wink meant. I interpreted it as him being pleased at the small mind-game victory, specifically that he drew the technical foul on Henson. Reasonable people can disagree. I truly don’t believe that Creighton’s coach, McDermott – especially considering that he used to drive Harrison Barnes to and from the basketball court when his son was best friends with him in high school- would have sent his players out with a ‘hack-to-hurt’ missive. It’s no surprise, though, that Wragge didn’t have a major reaction after the Marshall foul, since Kendall himself seemed somewhat unconcerned with the injury until later.

        The game’s only flagrant foul in my eyes actually went unnoticed, when Echenique gave Zeller a double-forearm to the chest. The refs shouldn’t have missed that one.

        Glad you respect Duke. There is no such school as Dook.

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      • davidjohn Says:

        Gibbs winked because Henson was called for a technical, not because he slapped his wrist.

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    • leborules Says:

      Good post. I agree too, I never root for a player at any level to be injured. I hate to see it happen. This UNC team has now had 4 of it’s top 6 from last year deal with injuries this year, McDonald – ACL out for year, Strickland – ACL out for year, Henson – wrist recovering, Marshall – broken wrist, Bullock, Hairston and McAdoo have all been hurt this year as well. I really can’t recall a team dealing with this many injuries in one year in a long time. Thanks for keeping it classy!

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  24. Jay Says:

    This article does a good job of taking a few way over the top fans and suggesting they represent the whole. I am a UNC grad and am completely ashamed by these actions. Yes, it was very disheartening to lose Kendall to that injury, and “some” fans chose to react in the way they did. But, dont make it seem that the whole fansbase did this because that is farthest from the truth.

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    • Tony Says:

      I don’t see where the article says anything of the sort. Pretty sure it says “some.”

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      • Jays Fan Says:

        I am a Creighton fan and have seen every game they played this year. What Carolina fans don’t understand is that if you had watched Wragge before you would know, he didn’t do anything intentional here. Wragge is just not as fast as all of the Tarheels fans want to think and that is what caused the problem. If you had watched Wragge at all this year you would know that. Watch the replay again and you will see what happened actually is that Wragge arrived late to the play and tried to get the ball. Unfortunately his late jump in pursuit of the basketball caused some type of weird juxtaposition by the Carolina player, who then fell awkwardly and landed badly. No one, especially Ethan Wragge, would want for this young man to be hurt. The whole situation is very unfortunate.

        What is even more unfortunate however is that adults are on this website and others wishing for these 2 very talented young to be inflicted with even more pain and hurt, all in the name of basketball. This is what is very very sad indeed

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  25. Spencer Says:

    So I guess people in North Carolina take basketball pretty seriously.

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  26. cussmikemeout Says:

    Happy to see some of the Red Rager for NC State and the Duke Blue Bums from the wral website have found it here to unleash there ABC messages here. There was a hard foul on Marshall and on Henson a deliberate attempt to get him out of the game by hacking his wrist. Is what basketball is coming to. You know you’re going to lose so you injury the opposing team’s player. Just look at this.

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  28. MichaelEdits Says:

    As is usual in the more abusive comments on the Internet, they don’t spell like college graduates. I damn sure hope they didn’t graduate from any North Carolina universities because I’m from — can you guess? — North Carolina.

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    • bluebleeder Says:

      No one’s even talking about this one, which fired me up when it happened. Yeah, you expect it from individuals, but as a team effort it makes for weak sauce. Still, its a man’s game. The onus is on the refs to police hard fouls and keep the game from getting dangerous. Fail.

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  29. Rev. William B. Randolph Says:

    For many of us Duke Alums, particularly those originally from the Old North State, there is nothing new here with the excessive whining of Tarheel fans about the physical nature of other teams (while not seeing the often rough play of their own players) as well as being openly desirous of injuries to players of other teams. Many of us have been on the receiving end of way too much vitriolic, opprobrious, and pernicious behavior at the hands of both causal Carolina fans and alums alike. It is one thing to cheer a team on and to love your school win or lose, but something altogether different to celebrate when bad things happen to your rivals or to vindictively wish ill upon those you have already vanquished. It is of course not rational nor healthy for adults to become so caught up in winning that they lose focus in this way. Granted, one could argue about which school has more fanatics that have reached this point, the Light Blue Folks or the Royal Blue Folks, but it almost always has tragic consequences for all concerned. Not being able to keep games in perspective leads to things like prosecutors who are alums of a school over reaching flimsy cases in an effort to ruin the (possible National Championship) chances of athletes falsely accused (he had to have known) just because they wore DUKE on their uniforms. It leads to untimely deaths from things like coronaries because a person can’t let go of their bitterness and anger when a rival defeats their beloved team. I wonder if this necessity for your team to win and glee in the misfortune of others, doesn’t also have karmic consequences. Could possibly the injuries to McDonald, Strick, Henson (probably cost Carolina the ACC Tournament), and now Marshall (it remains to be seen whether this will rob Carolina of a NCAA Banner) be a result in the ill wishes for other teams and the celebration of Kyrie’s injury last year (which many believed robbed Duke of a National Championship)? Good fans pull for their teams but are not so desperately identified with their team’s winning or losing that they lose objectivity and see: It was not the kid’s fault that a foul was not called on the forearm to Zeller’s neck, but the Official who was not watching (where were all these same fans when breathing on Zeller was called a foul in ACC play). It was not an intentional blow by Wrappe to Marshall. Or that It was not an attempt to take Henson out when a swipe at the ball was so slow it missed hitting his already injured wrist (which he probably should not have been playing with in the first place).

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    • leborules Says:

      So when dook fans openly make fun of Roy’s vertigo and say things like “I hope he passes out” would the loss to Lehigh be the consequence? Or, when they posted all the stuff about Barnes last year all over the internet, are you saying Irving’s injury was a consequence of that? You have Reverend in your title but you talk about karmic consequences? Something seems out of place to me.

      I never celebrated Kyrie’s injury, and know of no one I associate with who did. Also, if you make no play at the ball, how is it not intentional?

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    • Elizabeth Says:

      @Rev Spare me. UNC and Duke fans are equally as terrible to each other. As are Michigan and Ohio State fans etc. If you think otherwise you’re really missing something. Furthermore, Kyrie is probably one of the least hated recent good Duke players ever. I’ll never root for JJ Redick in the NBA, but I sure as heck cheer for Kyrie at Cleveland he’s the only entertaining part of that team.

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  30. jeff neher Says:

    I don’t know why anyone would be surprised. Typical Carolina fans. Ignorant and hateful. That is UNC-University of NO Class…

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    • go dook! Says:

      Nice try dookies!
      Lehigh … lmao! And its only looking worse for Dook’s ’12-’13 roster. Kendall, Leslie, and Dex will heal, and bring this team back next season. Then you can hate on them again.
      Lehigh!

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  31. Gene Says:

    Roy and the coaches reviewed the film, and they feel there was only one foul that was excessive, and that was Echenique foul, which was not even called. The Creighton coach even called Roy to assure him that they are not a dirty team, but Roy knew that already. Roy has known Echenique for 4 years, and said that it is not Echenique’s character to play dirty. It was just a hard fought game. That should end all discussions–Kendall Marshall had an unfortunate accident. UNC has had to overcome adversity, and we will!
    Anyone who has posted an over-agressive comment should apologize.

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    • Jays Fan Says:

      Thanks, finally someone talks with some sense!

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    • Gene Says:

      Here’s part of a radio interview with Roy Williams where he states that he did not think there was any problem with the Creighton play.
      “The other thing I would say is that I know Greg McDermott, the Creighton coach. I get a call this morning as I’m coming back from the hospital from Greg McDermott. He said that they were getting a lot of negative mail and even some death threat kind of things, which I think is way out of whack. He said ‘Coach, I want you to know we wouldn’t play like that. We don’t play like that. It was unfortunate.’ He said the kid that the foul that was called on with Kendall is a great kid and I said ‘Greg, let me tell you. When that play happened I said ‘gosh I wish he hadn’t hit him quite as hard,’ but it was an uncomfortable, uncoordinated fall. Had Kendall been going left like he goes 90% of the time, he would’ve bounced right back up, because he would’ve landed the way he lands all the time.’ I said, ‘Greg I have no problem with that. Yes, when it happened I said to myself ‘boy I wish he hadn’t hit him quite that hard,’ but I can live with that.’ I said, ‘one play that I would question you about,’ he said, ‘Coach I know which play you’re going to talk about.’ He said, ‘when Greg forearmed Tyler Zeller coming down the lane,’ he said ‘I’ve already met with Greg. I showed it to him on tape. I told him that was not acceptable. I have no problem with somebody boxing out somebody if they go to the basket at a run, but you’ve got to stand your ground to do it, but there was no call for him to get his forearms up there as high as he did and hit him like that. I would apologize to Tyler Zeller. I would apologize to Tyler’s family. Greg would apologize to him, but you’ve known Greg for a long time and Greg is not that kind of player.’

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      • cussmikemeout Says:

        It is obvious from the clips I posted that the Creighton players were trying to injure Henson. I don’t care what he, Dermott, told Roy. The actions of his team tell a different story. No apology can make up for the actions of his team. I didn’t see him pull his player out of the game, and talk to them about the dirty play. If he had done that, then I might believe he really was sorry. However, you can see he’s ready to apolize now, after the damage is done.

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  32. cussmikemeout Says:


    Don’t forget who the real victim is here… Marshall and Carolina. Not Wrappe. Although, he was probably doing what he was told by the coach. All those Dookies on here talking their crap, I can understand why you think it’s ok. Your coach is the dirtest player in the game. He did send Henderson to break Hansbrough’s nose.

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  33. Tyler Says:

    Even if it was intentional this is horrible sportsmanship on both sides…

    UNC fans have the worst sportsmanship there is…

    It happened now move on with life!

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  34. Rodger Says:

    Hey, LEHIGH, WTG!

    And OoO yeah, I just stocked up some real nice UNC gear at the local wal-mart STATE fans, lmao. You morons win 2 games in a row and start getting mouthy… typical trash. Hopefully your team beats Kansas so we can take you to the dump.

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  35. Defunder Funtime Says:

    I wish we would stop blaming these tweets on non-degree holding UNC fans. It reminds of being pro-choice but telling everyone you’re pro-life for yourself.

    Anyway, the reason for all the venom is because of how the whole game was played. There was the Henson technical (and Winkgate), the uncalled forearm to Tyler, the 2nd time Henson’s wrist was hacked on, etc. Whether Kendall got injured or not, Tar Heels would have been trashing the way Creighton played that day. But since the most important piece of our Final Four-caliber team did go down (probably for the season), it sent everyone off the deep end.

    Our guys have had their seasons ended from fouls before, but I honestly believe this was the perfect storm from gameplay style (overly physical) to the player (our only PG) to time of season (NCAA tourney).

    I didn’t send out any tweets, but I’m glad our fans are deranged.

    Go Heels! #PassFir5t

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  36. Alen Says:

    As a Carolina fan, I have zero problems with how Creighton played. I never thought it dirty.

    And, as for those idiots who blew up the Wragge kid’s Twitter account, shame on the lot of you. You are hardly representativ of the Carolina fanbase as a whole.

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  37. ray Says:

    Spend any time on any message board and you see low class comments like this. Honestly how old do you think most of these fans were? I’m guessing <25 and most were probably inebriated. Sad commentary on society.

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  38. Hunter Says:

    If this is Ethan wragge, there’s no shame in the foul you committed everyone in the world who could have a neutral mind for the sake of that play could see it wasnt an instance of intentionally fouling someone to injure them. It’s march madness and this goes with the territory. Shit happens and there’s no way to tell for sure what the intentions were and we never will, but unc fans get off your band wagon, and get behind whats left and still reasonably healthy of your team and get it done. Champions find a way to win through adversity. If unc loses before or even in the championship it’s nobody’s fault but their own or the mere fact they could just be outplayed or have a bad night.

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  39. Charles Says:

    @ devilwalking
    I almost had respect for a great deal of what you said early in your post. I myself am a die hard Tar Heel, and basically my whole family are alumni. I enjoy the healthy trash talking that goes on between myself and friends who for whatever reason choose to love the Dookies. For the record, only one of those dozens of friends who are Duke fans is an actual alumni, so I’m thinking every school is relying on non-alumni fans for merchandise and ticket sales. I can be very crude with my friends at times in our personal jests to one another, but agree that this kind of stuff is inappropriate. It hurts because we do see our program as a family, and we want to defend that family if we see them hurting, but even here you see others taking the opportunity to send out jabs at UNC yourself included, and as is often the case when criticizing others you use half truths or blatant lies. for instance: “But here’s a guy who kicks loud fans of non-competitive teams out of the Dean Dome, heads to the locker room early with his stars but not his reserves and compares a difficult basketball season with the natural disaster and humanitarian crisis in Haiti.” First off, I’m a fan of the Heels as previously stated, my family donated $250,000 toward the building of the Dean Dome, and we are lifetime ticket holders. I have been kicked out of the Dome, wearing all baby blue, and sitting in my family seats for using excessive language. We show no favorites there. We expect a certain etiquette in the house that Dean built and I respect that. Second, at the end of the FSU game Roy spoke with Leonard and it was Leonard who recommended we leave the floor. Roy at that point told everyone to come on, and Blue Steel didn’t understand that and stayed on the court. It wasn’t until he got to the locker room that he realized the whole team was not there with him. Anyone who knows anything about the relationships built between coach and players at UNC knows that Roy sees every one of them as his own son. That’s why you see so much emotion when incidents like what happened to Kendall go down. He also almost always blames his own coaching after any loss. Roy Williams is the EPITOME of a great college basketball coach, and he is much more than that. He is a leader and teacher of young men; instilling philosophies that will carry on with his former players long after their respective stints on the hardwood are done. The third is just ridiculous and completely out of context. Are you old enough to remember “J.R. Can’t Read?” Talk about classless. Look, all of this is just stupid and unproductive. The main focus should be that a terrific young man got injured. A young man who was at the close of one of the most amazing seasons by any point guard ever. I hope that he is able to go for us, without causing more injury, and I believe his team can rally around him. If you listened to any of his comments after the game I think he mentioned his team about 16 times. Kendall is an exemplary young man, who has silenced any and all criticism that has been thrown his way this year. Thank you Kendall for the memories this season and I hope we can add four more before it is all said and done this year. I have faith with or without him the boys will leave it all on the floor for as long as we’re still dancing, but can we all remember that these are 18,19, and 20 year old kids? The game is supposed to be fun. As Roy said, “when you go to the Sweet 16, it’s supposed to be a lot more fun than this.” We need to make the rest of the journey as fun as we can, and if it ends this weekend we’ll always have 18pts, in Cameron, on Senior Night, and Duke will have there own Weber St named Lehigh.

    TAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  40. Teodocia Says:

    I am not a UNC fan, but I believe by watching the videos on this site that Creighton player #34, purposely tried to hurt Henson. Winking to the bench to me means, I have done the job.

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    • Jays Fan Says:

      #34 didn’t wink #10 did, they are 2 separate plays. So I’m not sure you watched at all. Once again, this is not the topic of this string of reponses, it is the terrible actions of the fans on both sides. First the UNC fans who made death threats on a 20 year old college student then all of these rivals of UNC who hate UNC that said they were glad the UNC player was hurt. This is why sports have a bad name. This is also what ruins young men and women early in their college careers. This is not a lesson I would want my son or daughter to have to endure while they are trying to find their way into adulthood. Sad Sad Sad…………..

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      • the truth ia in the videos Says:

        I would think that the play of the Creighton players are what gives sports a bad name. It seem that this type of play, agressive, has been punished by the NFL. I would think also, that this should be investigated by the NCAA. The foul on Marshall was maybe not an intentially to hurt Marshall, but maybe just that Wagge was angry because they were losing and hit Marshall a little harder than he wanted to. I think that anyone who looks at all of the videos posted here doesn’t see the play as not dirty, then they aren’t being honest. I also think that Waggle received a few nasty post on his twitter account. While I’m not defending it, they were nothing like what Marshall has to deal with. If he’s tough enough to commit the foul then he should be tough enough to deal with the tweets.
        The hacking on Henson was clear. No one could look at those videos and not see it unless they are looking at it through dark bluejay glasses.
        I for one wouldn’t want my kid to go play for a coach who thinks that kind of play is good for college basketball.

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  41. Elizabeth Says:

    I agree these comments are terrible, especially the threats, but there were also plenty of people thanking him for hurting Marshall. I distinctly remember seeing a Creighton student tweet that she was going to “welcome Wragge back with open arms” because even though they didn’t win he was at-least able to “take out UNC.” (paraphrasing some of this, but I do remember the 2 quoted sections verbatim as I was so incensed) They were blatantly thrilled that a college athlete with a bright future went down with a serious injury. Not to mention, look at Marshall’s favorited tweets on his Twitter page.

    Here’s a few examples:
    Jeffrey mandolfo ‏
    @_Hugh_JEFFner_ I hope @kbutter5 wrist gets infected and he can never touch a basketball again

    Eric ‏ @5holeEric
    Let’s hear it for @Wragge34! Ending at least one UNC player’s season early. #Golfclap

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    • BlueBleeder Says:

      bear in mind, much like the comments that inspired this thread, the comments you refer to are the posts of individuals, not a representative ‘they’

      if i meet an individual who says something like that to my face… yes, i might knock him out, but mostly i’m just leaving it in the past and looking forward to this weekend. all positive. go heels!

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  42. chuck Says:

    I didn’t write anything bad about Creighton, but if you think those plays aren’t dirty you are just as dumb as the people who wrote they hope the guy dies.

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  43. TS Says:

    Those comments left on Twitter are sickening. I am a fan of a team not mentioned in this article so this is coming from a neutral perspective. I hope those people can find it in themselves to apologize.

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  44. DAVE Says:

    WHAT A BUNCH OF SOFT PUSSIES, I HOPE YOU GET YOUR ASS KICKED BY A REAL PHYSICAL TEAM, CREIGHTON HAS NEVER BEEN ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL PLAY ALL YEAR

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    • BlueBleeder Says:

      Creighton could outrun most teams but knew they couldn’t against unc. that’s why they were so bad at it. clumsy cheap shots instead of sustained bruising. unc deals with physical game plans all the time. even if an opponent’s play is frustrating to the fan base, because of the pace and number of possessions, normally it just leads to foul trouble. half-way through the second half we’re in the bonus and their bigs are on the bench. recipe for domination. who you got in mind?

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  45. Chief Illwhiniwept Says:

    I agreed with everything the writer said. It’s also pretty funny to hear it coming from an IU fan after how they handled their win against UK.

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  46. donald630 Says:

    Such hate over a game pathetic

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